AMD Radeon VII Review: Not Ready for Launch (& Pad vs. Paste Test)

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Reviewing AMD's Radeon VII video card vs. the RTX 2080 and others, featuring OpenCL tests, graphite thermal pad vs. paste tests, acoustics, gaming, & more.
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Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3437-amd-radeon-vii-review-not-ready-for-launch
This review answers a lot of potential questions, particularly those wondering about what "Junction temperature" is on the AMD Radeon VII, or how it compares versus "GPU temperature." While walking through graphite thermal pad tests vs. thermal paste, we also talk mounting pressure, noise levels, MOSFET thermals, and performance. Cards tested include Radeon VII, Vega 56, Vega 64, GTX 1080 Ti, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti, Titan RTX, and many more.
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Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus 6 місяців тому
Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3437-amd-radeon-vii-review-not-ready-for-launch Learn why the Radeon VII PCB is good: ukvid.net/video/%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zx9rKmsxk00.html Radeon VII Tear-Down: ukvid.net/video/%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0b9_c4oJRTE.html
Aye 5 місяців тому
does the radeon 7 run any different with an amd equivalent cpu to the intel ones standardly used in benchmarks just curious If amd would work better with amd since I assume amd would be using at least mostly amd cpus to test their graphics cards
Killkidra GNFlag
Killkidra GNFlag 6 місяців тому
@Gamers Nexus Radeon Vega 7 vs adobe RTX 2080
Dr. Prof. Mr. Gen. Tom
Dr. Prof. Mr. Gen. Tom 6 місяців тому
Are we going to get a janky water cooled Vega VII benchmarks video?
Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown 6 місяців тому
So where does the EVGA Maxwell TITAN X GTX Superclocked 12GB come in on this list? How come it's not even on the list? Please add it to the list! It's still selling for over $700.00 used. I have one and I don't even know if it's worth upgrading yet until maybe I see what AMD is going to throw at us this summer. It really aggravates the piss out of me that the TITAN RTX is what... $2,500 and the Maxwell TITAN X GTX SC 12GB was $1,030.00 (the box was scratched - saved like $100 or something crazy like that) Anyways - I know some of the specs on up to par compared to a lot of new stuff - cuda cores and the like - maybe I'm wrong - but I have no issues playing anything at the moment. Here's the parts list of my rig. pcpartpicker.com/user/AEON_Artistry/saved/ -- constant updates and lagging if you do not update the drivers has been driving me crazy. Other than that - no other issues with it really - other than it's left out of so many lists where it should be ranked on in my opinion! Maybe I'm just not up to speed on everything new - last years whole screw up really pushed me away from upgrading to a newer GPU - the whole bitcoin mining making a cheap ass low end card cost 10x what it's worth - I believe a lot of people are in my shoes! Anyways, a reply would be awesome!
thor odin
thor odin 6 місяців тому
@Thomas P is that so? people counted amd out of the cpu market years ago. said they would never ever catch intel. and guess what? they are smoking intel right now. this year, they are releasing 7 nm cpu's that will obliterate intel. intel has 28 core cpu's just released not too long ago. intel uses a monolith cpu design that makes their cpu's extremely costly. amd uses a modular design that links many cpu's to one socket. so...they can release a 64 core cpu this year that will utterly obliterate anything intel has. my point, amd stripped engineers away from vega to put them onto working on navi. they did this several years ago. navi has been in development since vega was in development. vega is really good considering they only had a skeleton crew working on it. since navi has had extra engineers working on it since nearly day 1 of it's life, i think people like you, are counting out amd long before the game is over, just like people did with their cpu division.
Cioby Місяць тому
Hey Steve I can't find your shitty useless video on how good the Vega is over the 2080 (ONLY CAUSE IT HAS LESS VRAM AND YOU WERE DOING TESTS THAT REQUIRED A LOT OF VRAM AND SPEED) but since the Ryzen is out HOW ABOUT YOU DO A REVIEW IN WHICH YOU COMPARE HOW THE 9900K AND 3900X (MAYBE EVEN THE 9700K AND 3700X) OVERCLOCK TO 5.5 GHZ SINCE IT'S ONLY FAIR YOU DO A FAIR COMPARISON LIKE YOU DID WITH THE GPUS RIGHT? OH WHAT? THE RYZEN CAN'T OVERCLOCK AT ALL LET ALONE TO 5.5 GHZ? OH WELL THAT MEANS THEY LOSE BY DEFAULT WITH A SCORE OF 0? MAN THAT SOUNDS UNFAIR. Lucky the VEGA VRAM test was totally fair and you didn't use a 1080ti which is as strong but has more VRAM. You fucking idiotic hypocrite.
BldgWha7 Місяць тому
So basically it’s competing with the RTX 2070 and older GTX 1080 for a lot more money. Good job AMD!
phat1234 2 місяці тому
revisit please!!
Oskar Nordlund
Oskar Nordlund 2 місяці тому
How did I miss this? It's been out for 4 months, yet I only found this out just now at random.
aaron.gormley 3 місяці тому
Have any or all of the driver issues been addressed since this video?
Houze 3 місяці тому
I really think that this card is the most interesting component I've ever seen. Everything about it is unique. From the way we were introduced to it, with zero leaks, a total surprise. To the shaky introduction into the market with drivers, to the strange place it finds itself now. Overclocking this card has been such a journey. What a unique card. Wish GN would revisit.
GreyWolf Towers
GreyWolf Towers 3 місяці тому
Always great information. However I find the speed you go through the videos makes it feel rushed... And it is most videos not just this one video. I personally would like to see you slow down a little, a little longer of a video would be better in my opinion so that all information more clearly understood.
Dave30867 3 місяці тому
I dont trust either companies anymore they both have way too many issues and i will not buy anymore or support them .
hunn20004 3 місяці тому
Now compare Radeon VII had bad drivers on launch that got fixed practically the next day when reviews came out RTX 1650 didn't have drivers out so nobody knew its performance on launch.
Jay Time
Jay Time 3 місяці тому
BUT you will save ALOT of money$ going with this RVII & a cheaper freesync monitor. right now only a handful of good monitors work with G sync
Iwan Jirkuw
Iwan Jirkuw 4 місяці тому
I never bought INTEL in my life, for my own PC! There was only a small window where i considered upgrading to Intel platform! DON'T YOU want to new video review for RADEON VII with new drivers?! As it seems there must have been some issues with early drivers! Also worth noting that power consumption is relatively smaller compare to RTX 2080. Also in the light of reality that RTX 2080 are dying fast i would strongly incline to AMD again! Here is why: ukvid.net/video/%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t5memuI5WD4.html
Jay Time
Jay Time 4 місяці тому
I keep haveing to slow down steves voice am i going brain dead or is the playback spead up ???? so weird
Thomas Logan
Thomas Logan 4 місяці тому
Outstanding review. Thanks for the hard work!
karehaqt 4 місяці тому
Why do you talk so fast?
Nemesis_FTW 4 місяці тому
Can we get a new video for Radeon 7 using the 19.3.3 drivers with gaming benchmarks? Please and thank you.
Josh - Game Dev
Josh - Game Dev 4 місяці тому
16:25 > Went to article to read on GTA V performance. > nothing about GTA V in article > feelsbadman
lazypasty 4 місяці тому
so would you mod it by sanding down the cold plate on the copper heat sink? or would you just/also use washers to increase pressure on the back bracket?
Aye 5 місяців тому
it will likely take some modding but what if you used the cooling shroud from the asus liquid cooled card that showed at CES 2019
sparda9060 5 місяців тому
People complain about r7 drivers when rtx launched with drivers that bricked their cards. Lol you guys got memory of a goldfish.
Hove 131
Hove 131 5 місяців тому
Fan curve still broken on the newest driver. It won't run on any fan curve I set and ramps up to it's high stock fan speeds. Fan speeds curve set on MSI Afterburner works great so I'm using that just for the fan speeds on the card for now.
LIL SQUEEGEE 5 місяців тому
Can we see a comparison between the Radeon 7 vs the Vega frontier edition as they share similar specs
J DB 5 місяців тому
I might build a hackintosh with this radeon VII on a custom loop when parts actually become available. It's good to see it's better in openCL cuz that'll be exactly what i'm looking for, thanks Steve! Just one question, What % of fps increase do you think with lower temps and the OC fixed could one expect in this card?
Moshenokoji 5 місяців тому
Would be interesting to see benchmarks with the newer drivers. It has fixed so many things.
Tomas Pavlik
Tomas Pavlik 6 місяців тому
@gamets nexus - try radeon vii hybrid mod - no power limit + water cooling for my Radeon VII provides roughly 2100Mhz on core + 1200Mhz on memory
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- 42 - 6 місяців тому
Cool, nice to see AMD performing closer to Nvidia, granted there's currently some very bad driver issues but those can be fixed (and most likely will). As a Nvidia fanboy this still means that I've no reason to consider trying a Radeon card any time soon but it's nice to see some more competition in the graphics market, if only they'd priced it a bit more agressive.
KRIL89 6 місяців тому
Well you be doing another video now that overclocking and undervolting work! Also I'd love to see a hybrid mod again!
Michael Scholz
Michael Scholz 6 місяців тому
I really struggle following your technical explanations when you talk so fast. I'd like to learn from you because you're such an authority, please think about how much info you are trying to cram into your videos so you can pace them a bit better?
saultube44 6 місяців тому
Take into account there will be Adrenaline and Radeon Pro drivers, the first for gaming, the second for computing What about testing the Radeon 7 with and AMD CPU? I suggest make the OC sustainable, so it's actually helpful for most people/technicians wanting to OC and public/customers that will use those CPU/GPU OCed for everyday use, so no huge World Record OC, unless you're doing a max OC comparison, 10-15% OC IMO is good, -20% if you won the Silicon Lottery, Some Ryzen CPUs will only go up to 1-5% and in some cases 0% so that data plus the OC freq. is helpful, only writing 'OC' it's not
Eric Newton
Eric Newton 6 місяців тому
I’ve always had problems with any AMD gpu drivers. Since over ten years ago. Seemed like AMD had their drivers s$$t together last few years but now I’m seeing they might not. Ironically was looking at AMD since FreeSync is winning the sync war. However since nvidia is about to “allow FreeSync to work on their GPUs” I might jus stay with nvidia. Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown 6 місяців тому
So where does the EVGA Maxwell TITAN X GTX Superclocked 12GB come in on this list? How come it's not even on the list? Please add it to the list! It's still selling for over $700.00 used. I have one and I don't even know if it's worth upgrading yet until maybe I see what AMD is going to throw at us this summer. It really aggravates the piss out of me that the TITAN RTX is what... $2,500 and the Maxwell TITAN X GTX SC 12GB was $1,030.00 (the box was scratched - saved like $100 or something crazy like that) Anyways - I know some of the specs on up to par compared to a lot of new stuff - cuda cores and the like - maybe I'm wrong - but I have no issues playing anything at the moment. Here's the parts list of my rig. pcpartpicker.com/user/AEON_Artistry/saved/ -- constant updates and lagging if you do not update the drivers has been driving me crazy. Other than that - no other issues with it really - other than it's left out of so many lists where it should be ranked on in my opinion! Maybe I'm just not up to speed on everything new - last years whole screw up really pushed me away from upgrading to a newer GPU - the whole bitcoin mining making a cheap ass low end card cost 10x what it's worth - I believe a lot of people are in my shoes! Anyways, a reply would be awesome!
Sir Diealot
Sir Diealot 6 місяців тому
Maybe test on Linux? The driver there seems to be good.
Jakob 6 місяців тому
is that uneven fan-balancing it looks highly erratic 0:54 kudos to AMD for junction temp.. that's a bold move no doubt as you could risk people not able to put it into appropriate relief.
Richard Magnano
Richard Magnano 6 місяців тому
AMD needs to hire you and your team.
macanh.ahmad NMH
macanh.ahmad NMH 6 місяців тому
Guys I need help.. I bought a new ryzen 2600x . While I was removing the cooler from the box I touched the thermal paste with my finger. So when I started building it I thought to moving the cooler on cpu to spread the thermal paste on it and I remove it to check it's looks not the bad .. So is it necessary to buy new thermal paste for ryzen 2600x's cooler
Taraquin83 6 місяців тому
AMD has a way of sabotaging itself! If radeon 7 came out when 1080ti did things would have been far more interessting. Also, how can they mess up drivers on a product that is 90% Q3 2017? If I were AMD I would adopt the voltage\speed system from turing and pascal. Their binningprocess is horrible! Auto-undervolt should atleast be a default feature that runs automaticly when installing the drivers, that would have helped a bit with noise and power consumption.
neojack333 6 місяців тому
I ordered one. ETA about 15 days so, good card but run hots ans noisy. since i have a full loop it's not an issue. EK is planning a waterblock, no doubt alphacool will make one, and probably watercool.de I hope the drivers will get better though. thanks for the heads ups about windows corruption, i will make sure to do a full backup of my boot drive before to install the card.
Alisa Menna
Alisa Menna 6 місяців тому
Steve is much better at talking than Jay.
fatarsemonkey 6 місяців тому
So let me get this right, the R7 is close to the same speed as a 2080 FE but it runs smoother than any of the RTX cards tested against it?
fatarsemonkey 5 місяців тому
@sparda9060 Yer so its place is between a Ti and a FE.
sparda9060 5 місяців тому
Overall it has very good minimum frame rates which provides a smoother gameplay. The lows on rtx is pretty large gaps and spikes. Combined r7 with freesync 2 and ryzen, it runs games perfectly smooth experience.
Amellia Mendel
Amellia Mendel 6 місяців тому
A.M.D. ==> another major disappointment
MrMarcost2 6 місяців тому
So it is comparable to a 2080 most of the time with broken drivers? Now i want to see testing when the drivers get "fixed" (as much as they may get)
Roy Fokker
Roy Fokker 6 місяців тому
I have an acer predator Helios 500 with amd ryzen 7 and a radeon vega 56. I am working on a external gpu for it. I have PCIe PCI-E V8.4D EXP GDC External Laptop Video Card Dock/Laptop Docking Station. I am looking for a gpu around 700 price point what would you recommend
Joel Young
Joel Young 6 місяців тому
Fuck these graphs kill me. Can U speed that shit up
Hito360 6 місяців тому
could he speak any faster or bored? understandable but really annoying.
Matt Shaw
Matt Shaw 6 місяців тому
AMD has a major problem with keeping its thermals at an adequate level for its clock speeds. They need better cooling and they tried hard this time but still not enough. I know for a fact that an AMD stock air cooled Vega 64 is quite a bit better performance wise than a 2070 and the reason why it loses usually is because it reaches its thermal threshold before it can hit its max clock, hence why people undervolt. When you undervolt you lower the temp with less voltage and are able to sustain the max clock speeds without a thermal throttle to a lower clock. The only thing NVIDIA is better at is engineering an adequate cooling solution, in reality AMD has faster cards for the price. I just feel bad when they cannot portray this to the average consumer who doesnt care or even know a thing about overclocking, thermals, and undervolting, all they know is biased ass reviews on UKvid that dont even factor in these aspects. I have tested undervolting, seen thermals and ran benchmarks myself with a Vega 64 vs a 2070, and I could care less about the company name, but what I do care about is a companies good business practices and good will towards its consumers. AMD step your game up and stop making stupid ass mistakes.
AgentQ 6 місяців тому
ouch... this hurts
Talic TDF
Talic TDF 6 місяців тому
so... it has the advantage of a 7nm process but still runs hotter/louder and pulls more power, story of AMD's life ^_^
Telecasterland 6 місяців тому
Looks like 3rd party solutions will devastate the reference design.
YDB Gaming
YDB Gaming 6 місяців тому
After new drivers this card still can not run as good as a rtx2080 plus you can buy a rtx2080 for $699.99 right now so this is why I do not buy anything amd.
Sunako Kirishiki
Sunako Kirishiki 6 місяців тому
11:23 Those frametimes are so good. Actual gameplay and fluidity seems better with VII. If drivers improve and undervolting improves stability like it always does, this card looks like the one to get as far as actual perceptive experience goes. Now the drivers just have to improve and then also allow undervolting and overclocking. Give me that stability over a higher stuttery framerate any day. And those 1% and 0.1% lows too, wow. Except in the one RTX game where VII loses to Vega 56 at 1080p somehow. Nice one, Nvidia. Thank you for the in-depth video! I love this channel.
WILD WILD VAPE 6 місяців тому
Awesome review :)
Romain Landemaine
Romain Landemaine 6 місяців тому
I start to think you would get better thermal performance by cutting the shroud, removing the Radeon logo and all the aluminum blocking the fins on the logo side... What's the point in having 3 fans if the air can't go anywhere ? They should make the shroud as open as possible on this side and put the Radeon logo on the backplate. Opening it on the mobo side probably little to no effect...
sparda9060 5 місяців тому
Logo is on top blocking the air flow because when put into a case, only the top part of the GPU can be seen. Lol I would rather them have a smaller logo n give more open space for cooling or just remove the damn logo period and put the fine air flow direction pointing in a different direction.
brakjart 6 місяців тому
I just got the notification for this video on my phone... 3 days after release... UKvid wtf
kakaraka 6 місяців тому
believe in AMD
awdrifter3 6 місяців тому
This is just a die shrinked and clocked up Vega 64.
Jere Kettunen
Jere Kettunen 6 місяців тому
So watercooling this fucker sounds like a drag... Guess I'll wait for Navi with my 1080 Ti :/ Wanted to swap to AMD just to get rid of Ngreedia
TB Inc.
TB Inc. 6 місяців тому
Radeon 7 : Expectation: Nvidia has overpriced their 20 series line up so time for AMD to come out with their 7nm process and give Nvidia a run for their money. Reality: Similar price and similar performance to a RTX 2080 but lacks rtx and dlss. I know there is currently only BFV for DXR but something is better than nothing. Radeon 7 actually makes rtx 2080 look like a good recommendation for gaming. So rtx 2080 is the better card for gaming at present (as a gamer, I am speaking for myself here and I don't do any production work) Final hope is that fixing drivers will give Radeon 7 a great performance boost (not likely) OR AMD releases a card without HBM (or less than 16 gb HBM) at a much cheaper price for similar performance as Radeon 7.
Nasmera Nasmera
Nasmera Nasmera 6 місяців тому
I know this Gpu will disappoint me because when they said Vega architecture and I already know this Gpu will sucks
esperCELL 6 місяців тому
*AMD drivers on Vega 56 is still fucked*
esperCELL 6 місяців тому
*Radeon VII is the very definition of a overpriced garbage*
basshead 6 місяців тому
Very true.
esperCELL 6 місяців тому
*AMD trying to gimp overclock*
neojack333 6 місяців тому
tbh honest it's already factory overclocked. I would be more interrested in downclocking i wonder if I push the wattman slidder to the left (eco mode), would it work ? i mean goind from 4k 60fps to 4k 55 fps is not bad if it cuts the heat and noise
franzb69 6 місяців тому
check out igor's lab. he talks about the secret about the thermal pad that amd uses for the radeon 7. he says it's actually a phase change material and not a pad. it becomes a "liquid" at 51c and above. it can expand up to 20% he says to conform to the uneven surface.
Sean Crees
Sean Crees 6 місяців тому
Steve, you know what this means. You need to lap that GPU die flat. If anyone is hardcore enough to lap a GPU die, it's you Steve. JUST DO IT!
sparda9060 5 місяців тому
Lol after all the shit he had to put with and do for all the custom water cooling video, I dont think he would give a shit about doing that unless someone can do it for him.
lolcup 6 місяців тому
I will never watch another steve video at normal speed again
laurie gallant
laurie gallant 6 місяців тому
imagine if this was all a ploy by amd. what they do is make a promise of this super great and super affordable product during nvidias rtx launch .like 50 percent of people avoid buying a card to save there money assuming the grass is greener on the other side and then nvidias stock drops due to lack of purchases and partners pull out. then people get tired of waiting so they release radeon 7 and almost lose money just to reinforce there promise that radeon 7 is just a taste of 7 nm when really they just packed 16 gb of the most expensive ram on the card to powerhouse there way up the benchmark charts when it really just shows that without that hbm they wouldn't even beat there own top end card .i have a feeling they are going to just keep delaying there release until they can figure something out. if they would have had something new < we would have seen it in radeon 7 . it would have had 11 gigs of ddr6 ram and beat the pants of a rtx 2070 for 70 percent the price. then i would have had faith in the future.
sparda9060 5 місяців тому
If they keep delaying releases, they will 2 or 3 gens behind nvidia. Hell nvidia always seem to be releasing shit right before and launches their cards stealing customers. No one would buy amd if they already own the newest nvidia card. They just can't win with the way nvidia stealing their thunder and every consumer shitting on. them whether they release too early or too late, you guys would still bitch and moan.
Cinnabuns2009 6 місяців тому
For VR though this is kind of a fail isn't it? I thought 11ms was top end for presence in VR? 6-10 is where we're used to with NV cards... that's a bummer cause I wanted this card. Also, RAW FPS testing it has definitely playably high framerates with the 1% and .1% lows usually higher than than the 2080ti? That means less dips and less worse dips doesn't it? So although the raw fps isn't as high, the lows aren't as low and its the lows that suck the most 'ballz' really so this is still a really really good offering for at least non-VR gaming which is good to see. If you're running VM's this is quite a card to have that will also game which is maybe a change of pace but gives those diehard geeks a route to also game... kinda fantastic too. This is really a gem for a niche audience. For the general public though its pretty lack luster. YMMV Still better than a 2080gtx at probably $100 less if not more depending on market which seems erratic.
doomxed 6 місяців тому
well against the new quattro rtx series, nvidia has to be in some sort of panic mode rigth now. The AMD VII haves faster FLOPS peformance. In theory.
marinko tinko
marinko tinko 6 місяців тому
1080ti is beter and lot cheaper
Wei Li
Wei Li 6 місяців тому
Be Aware, If you buy Radeon Vii directly on AMD.com, It only have one year warranty!!!while asrock,asus,msi and Gigabyte provide 3 years warranty on their Radeon Vii. This is especally worth when you compare to Nvidia, they provide 3 year warranty for founder edition card. Unbelievable for AMD decision to their fans. www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/rma-radeonvii-sold-by-amd
Potencijus Klizmantas
Potencijus Klizmantas 6 місяців тому
will be any water cooled benches soon?
Michał Starzyński
Michał Starzyński 6 місяців тому
Sorry guys but Jay having issues is not representative :) please don't quote that. Thanks for in depth review. My take based on your info is a beast card thats needs a lot of polishing on drivers side.
chris zarganis
chris zarganis 6 місяців тому
best reviewer simply put. please comment on smoothness cause i see a big difference .. and also video and colour on a big tv cause radeons are a lot better
Anthony Therrien-Bernard
Anthony Therrien-Bernard 6 місяців тому
This is an impressive sustained rate of speech... holly crap my french brain was on fire. That aside great content as usual
Finesse PC
Finesse PC 6 місяців тому
Der8auers Vid led me here..
HTElectrical 6 місяців тому
You need to SLOW DOWN, your not an auctioneer!!!
0zfer 6 місяців тому
Something is odd. Look at the raw specs. This thing is on par with 2080 TI or superior spec-wise. More memory that is 2x as fast. Same texture fill rate. Superior pixel fill rate. Similar Mhz * core count. I just don't think they pushed out good drivers for it yet.
JoshKeatonFan 6 місяців тому
This is my Radeon 7 review tour wrap up on UKvid! I started with JayzTwoCents, then to Bitwit, then Paul's Hardware, then HardwareCanucks, then LinusTechTips, and NOW Tech Jesus himself, Steve from Gamers Nexus!!!!!! Yay
Darknothing 6 місяців тому
1.25x speed and I stayed awake this time.
Edward D'Esposito
Edward D'Esposito 6 місяців тому
No oveclocking because missing api calls is because this silicon was not originally for gaming.
Andy T
Andy T 6 місяців тому
Why didn’t they lap the silicon before releasing-or sand down whatever. Maybe you can’t - but why not at least design the chip heights to be the same. I am sure the stacked chips are hard to match, but it’s a known height so you could engineer for it.
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