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AMD Radeon VII Review: Not Ready for Launch (& Pad vs. Paste Test)

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Reviewing AMD's Radeon VII video card vs. the RTX 2080 and others, featuring OpenCL tests, graphite thermal pad vs. paste tests, acoustics, gaming, & more.
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Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3437-amd-radeon-vii-review-not-ready-for-launch
This review answers a lot of potential questions, particularly those wondering about what "Junction temperature" is on the AMD Radeon VII, or how it compares versus "GPU temperature." While walking through graphite thermal pad tests vs. thermal paste, we also talk mounting pressure, noise levels, MOSFET thermals, and performance. Cards tested include Radeon VII, Vega 56, Vega 64, GTX 1080 Ti, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Ti, Titan RTX, and many more.
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7 лют 2019

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Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus 14 днів тому
Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3437-amd-radeon-vii-review-not-ready-for-launch Learn why the Radeon VII PCB is good: ukvid.net/video/відео-zx9rKmsxk00.html Radeon VII Tear-Down: ukvid.net/video/відео-0b9_c4oJRTE.html
Dr. Prof. Mr. Gen. Tom
Dr. Prof. Mr. Gen. Tom 4 дні тому
Are we going to get a janky water cooled Vega VII benchmarks video?
Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown 7 днів тому
So where does the EVGA Maxwell TITAN X GTX Superclocked 12GB come in on this list? How come it's not even on the list? Please add it to the list! It's still selling for over $700.00 used. I have one and I don't even know if it's worth upgrading yet until maybe I see what AMD is going to throw at us this summer. It really aggravates the piss out of me that the TITAN RTX is what... $2,500 and the Maxwell TITAN X GTX SC 12GB was $1,030.00 (the box was scratched - saved like $100 or something crazy like that) Anyways - I know some of the specs on up to par compared to a lot of new stuff - cuda cores and the like - maybe I'm wrong - but I have no issues playing anything at the moment. Here's the parts list of my rig. pcpartpicker.com/user/AEON_Artistry/saved/ -- constant updates and lagging if you do not update the drivers has been driving me crazy. Other than that - no other issues with it really - other than it's left out of so many lists where it should be ranked on in my opinion! Maybe I'm just not up to speed on everything new - last years whole screw up really pushed me away from upgrading to a newer GPU - the whole bitcoin mining making a cheap ass low end card cost 10x what it's worth - I believe a lot of people are in my shoes! Anyways, a reply would be awesome!
thor odin
thor odin 9 днів тому
+Thomas P is that so? people counted amd out of the cpu market years ago. said they would never ever catch intel. and guess what? they are smoking intel right now. this year, they are releasing 7 nm cpu's that will obliterate intel. intel has 28 core cpu's just released not too long ago. intel uses a monolith cpu design that makes their cpu's extremely costly. amd uses a modular design that links many cpu's to one socket. so...they can release a 64 core cpu this year that will utterly obliterate anything intel has. my point, amd stripped engineers away from vega to put them onto working on navi. they did this several years ago. navi has been in development since vega was in development. vega is really good considering they only had a skeleton crew working on it. since navi has had extra engineers working on it since nearly day 1 of it's life, i think people like you, are counting out amd long before the game is over, just like people did with their cpu division.
Thomas P
Thomas P 9 днів тому
​+thor odin Navi will still end up lagging behind nVidia as time progresses. I don't even think its worthwhile for AMD to compete with nVidia in all sectors, just doing 80% as good will suffice. This would be the case against Intel too except Intel has suffered its own problems and started to fall behind its own time lines allowing AMD to catch up.
Tomas Pavlik
Tomas Pavlik День тому
@gamets nexus - try radeon vii hybrid mod - no power limit + water cooling for my Radeon VII provides roughly 2100Mhz on core + 1200Mhz on memory
- 42 -
- 42 - 3 дні тому
Cool, nice to see AMD performing closer to Nvidia, granted there's currently some very bad driver issues but those can be fixed (and most likely will). As a Nvidia fanboy this still means that I've no reason to consider trying a Radeon card any time soon but it's nice to see some more competition in the graphics market, if only they'd priced it a bit more agressive.
KRIL89
KRIL89 5 днів тому
Well you be doing another video now that overclocking and undervolting work! Also I'd love to see a hybrid mod again!
Michael Scholz
Michael Scholz 5 днів тому
I really struggle following your technical explanations when you talk so fast. I'd like to learn from you because you're such an authority, please think about how much info you are trying to cram into your videos so you can pace them a bit better?
saultube44
saultube44 6 днів тому
Take into account there will be Adrenaline and Radeon Pro drivers, the first for gaming, the second for computing What about testing the Radeon 7 with and AMD CPU? I suggest make the OC sustainable, so it's actually helpful for most people/technicians wanting to OC and public/customers that will use those CPU/GPU OCed for everyday use, so no huge World Record OC, unless you're doing a max OC comparison, 10-15% OC IMO is good, -20% if you won the Silicon Lottery, Some Ryzen CPUs will only go up to 1-5% and in some cases 0% so that data plus the OC freq. is helpful, only writing 'OC' it's not
Eric Newton
Eric Newton 6 днів тому
I’ve always had problems with any AMD gpu drivers. Since over ten years ago. Seemed like AMD had their drivers s$$t together last few years but now I’m seeing they might not. Ironically was looking at AMD since FreeSync is winning the sync war. However since nvidia is about to “allow FreeSync to work on their GPUs” I might jus stay with nvidia. Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown 7 днів тому
So where does the EVGA Maxwell TITAN X GTX Superclocked 12GB come in on this list? How come it's not even on the list? Please add it to the list! It's still selling for over $700.00 used. I have one and I don't even know if it's worth upgrading yet until maybe I see what AMD is going to throw at us this summer. It really aggravates the piss out of me that the TITAN RTX is what... $2,500 and the Maxwell TITAN X GTX SC 12GB was $1,030.00 (the box was scratched - saved like $100 or something crazy like that) Anyways - I know some of the specs on up to par compared to a lot of new stuff - cuda cores and the like - maybe I'm wrong - but I have no issues playing anything at the moment. Here's the parts list of my rig. pcpartpicker.com/user/AEON_Artistry/saved/ -- constant updates and lagging if you do not update the drivers has been driving me crazy. Other than that - no other issues with it really - other than it's left out of so many lists where it should be ranked on in my opinion! Maybe I'm just not up to speed on everything new - last years whole screw up really pushed me away from upgrading to a newer GPU - the whole bitcoin mining making a cheap ass low end card cost 10x what it's worth - I believe a lot of people are in my shoes! Anyways, a reply would be awesome!
Sir Diealot
Sir Diealot 7 днів тому
Maybe test on Linux? The driver there seems to be good.
Jakob
Jakob 8 днів тому
is that uneven fan-balancing it looks highly erratic 0:54 kudos to AMD for junction temp.. that's a bold move no doubt as you could risk people not able to put it into appropriate relief.
Richard Magnano
Richard Magnano 8 днів тому
AMD needs to hire you and your team.
macanh.ahmad NMH
macanh.ahmad NMH 8 днів тому
Guys I need help.. I bought a new ryzen 2600x . While I was removing the cooler from the box I touched the thermal paste with my finger. So when I started building it I thought to moving the cooler on cpu to spread the thermal paste on it and I remove it to check it's looks not the bad .. So is it necessary to buy new thermal paste for ryzen 2600x's cooler
Taraquin83
Taraquin83 8 днів тому
AMD has a way of sabotaging itself! If radeon 7 came out when 1080ti did things would have been far more interessting. Also, how can they mess up drivers on a product that is 90% Q3 2017? If I were AMD I would adopt the voltage\speed system from turing and pascal. Their binningprocess is horrible! Auto-undervolt should atleast be a default feature that runs automaticly when installing the drivers, that would have helped a bit with noise and power consumption.
neojack333
neojack333 8 днів тому
I ordered one. ETA about 15 days so, good card but run hots ans noisy. since i have a full loop it's not an issue. EK is planning a waterblock, no doubt alphacool will make one, and probably watercool.de I hope the drivers will get better though. thanks for the heads ups about windows corruption, i will make sure to do a full backup of my boot drive before to install the card.
Alisa Menna
Alisa Menna 9 днів тому
Steve is much better at talking than Jay.
Pixeliva
Pixeliva 9 днів тому
@Gamers Nexus Would you suggest to buy "XFX Radeon VII" or "XFX Vega 64 Liquid cooled edition"? I will primarily use it in GPU C4D rendering. Vega is about 460 Eur and Radeon VII is about 770 Eur here. At the moment i am using GTX 980 Ti and any of those two is a huge upgrade.
mike schoemaker
mike schoemaker 9 днів тому
Poor AMD, they just cant seem to compete with Nvidea at all. Been struggling for decades, never once have they been on top in any regard, specs, sales, anything.
fatarsemonkey
fatarsemonkey 10 днів тому
So let me get this right, the R7 is close to the same speed as a 2080 FE but it runs smoother than any of the RTX cards tested against it?
Amellia Mendel
Amellia Mendel 10 днів тому
A.M.D. ==> another major disappointment
MrMarcost2
MrMarcost2 10 днів тому
So it is comparable to a 2080 most of the time with broken drivers? Now i want to see testing when the drivers get "fixed" (as much as they may get)
Roy Fokker
Roy Fokker 10 днів тому
I have an acer predator Helios 500 with amd ryzen 7 and a radeon vega 56. I am working on a external gpu for it. I have PCIe PCI-E V8.4D EXP GDC External Laptop Video Card Dock/Laptop Docking Station. I am looking for a gpu around 700 price point what would you recommend
Joel Young
Joel Young 10 днів тому
Fuck these graphs kill me. Can U speed that shit up
Hito360
Hito360 10 днів тому
could he speak any faster or bored? understandable but really annoying.
Matt Shaw
Matt Shaw 11 днів тому
AMD has a major problem with keeping its thermals at an adequate level for its clock speeds. They need better cooling and they tried hard this time but still not enough. I know for a fact that an AMD stock air cooled Vega 64 is quite a bit better performance wise than a 2070 and the reason why it loses usually is because it reaches its thermal threshold before it can hit its max clock, hence why people undervolt. When you undervolt you lower the temp with less voltage and are able to sustain the max clock speeds without a thermal throttle to a lower clock. The only thing NVIDIA is better at is engineering an adequate cooling solution, in reality AMD has faster cards for the price. I just feel bad when they cannot portray this to the average consumer who doesnt care or even know a thing about overclocking, thermals, and undervolting, all they know is biased ass reviews on UKvid that dont even factor in these aspects. I have tested undervolting, seen thermals and ran benchmarks myself with a Vega 64 vs a 2070, and I could care less about the company name, but what I do care about is a companies good business practices and good will towards its consumers. AMD step your game up and stop making stupid ass mistakes.
AgentQ
AgentQ 11 днів тому
ouch... this hurts
Talic TDF
Talic TDF 11 днів тому
so... it has the advantage of a 7nm process but still runs hotter/louder and pulls more power, story of AMD's life ^_^
Telecasterland
Telecasterland 11 днів тому
Looks like 3rd party solutions will devastate the reference design.
YDB Gaming
YDB Gaming 11 днів тому
After new drivers this card still can not run as good as a rtx2080 plus you can buy a rtx2080 for $699.99 right now so this is why I do not buy anything amd.
Sunako Kirishiki
Sunako Kirishiki 11 днів тому
11:23 Those frametimes are so good. Actual gameplay and fluidity seems better with VII. If drivers improve and undervolting improves stability like it always does, this card looks like the one to get as far as actual perceptive experience goes. Now the drivers just have to improve and then also allow undervolting and overclocking. Give me that stability over a higher stuttery framerate any day. And those 1% and 0.1% lows too, wow. Except in the one RTX game where VII loses to Vega 56 at 1080p somehow. Nice one, Nvidia. Thank you for the in-depth video! I love this channel.
WILD WILD VAPE
WILD WILD VAPE 11 днів тому
Awesome review :)
Romain Landemaine
Romain Landemaine 11 днів тому
I start to think you would get better thermal performance by cutting the shroud, removing the Radeon logo and all the aluminum blocking the fins on the logo side... What's the point in having 3 fans if the air can't go anywhere ? They should make the shroud as open as possible on this side and put the Radeon logo on the backplate. Opening it on the mobo side probably little to no effect...
brakjart
brakjart 11 днів тому
I just got the notification for this video on my phone... 3 days after release... UKvid wtf
kakaraka
kakaraka 11 днів тому
believe in AMD
awdrifter3
awdrifter3 11 днів тому
This is just a die shrinked and clocked up Vega 64.
Jere Kettunen
Jere Kettunen 11 днів тому
So watercooling this fucker sounds like a drag... Guess I'll wait for Navi with my 1080 Ti :/ Wanted to swap to AMD just to get rid of Ngreedia
TB Inc.
TB Inc. 11 днів тому
Radeon 7 : Expectation: Nvidia has overpriced their 20 series line up so time for AMD to come out with their 7nm process and give Nvidia a run for their money. Reality: Similar price and similar performance to a RTX 2080 but lacks rtx and dlss. I know there is currently only BFV for DXR but something is better than nothing. Radeon 7 actually makes rtx 2080 look like a good recommendation for gaming. So rtx 2080 is the better card for gaming at present (as a gamer, I am speaking for myself here and I don't do any production work) Final hope is that fixing drivers will give Radeon 7 a great performance boost (not likely) OR AMD releases a card without HBM (or less than 16 gb HBM) at a much cheaper price for similar performance as Radeon 7.
Nasmera Nasmera
Nasmera Nasmera 11 днів тому
I know this Gpu will disappoint me because when they said Vega architecture and I already know this Gpu will sucks
esperCELL
esperCELL 11 днів тому
*AMD drivers on Vega 56 is still fucked*
esperCELL
esperCELL 11 днів тому
*Radeon VII is the very definition of a overpriced garbage*
basshead
basshead 9 днів тому
Very true.
esperCELL
esperCELL 11 днів тому
*AMD trying to gimp overclock*
neojack333
neojack333 8 днів тому
tbh honest it's already factory overclocked. I would be more interrested in downclocking i wonder if I push the wattman slidder to the left (eco mode), would it work ? i mean goind from 4k 60fps to 4k 55 fps is not bad if it cuts the heat and noise
franzb69
franzb69 11 днів тому
check out igor's lab. he talks about the secret about the thermal pad that amd uses for the radeon 7. he says it's actually a phase change material and not a pad. it becomes a "liquid" at 51c and above. it can expand up to 20% he says to conform to the uneven surface.
Sean Crees
Sean Crees 12 днів тому
Steve, you know what this means. You need to lap that GPU die flat. If anyone is hardcore enough to lap a GPU die, it's you Steve. JUST DO IT!
lolcup
lolcup 12 днів тому
I will never watch another steve video at normal speed again
laurie gallant
laurie gallant 12 днів тому
imagine if this was all a ploy by amd. what they do is make a promise of this super great and super affordable product during nvidias rtx launch .like 50 percent of people avoid buying a card to save there money assuming the grass is greener on the other side and then nvidias stock drops due to lack of purchases and partners pull out. then people get tired of waiting so they release radeon 7 and almost lose money just to reinforce there promise that radeon 7 is just a taste of 7 nm when really they just packed 16 gb of the most expensive ram on the card to powerhouse there way up the benchmark charts when it really just shows that without that hbm they wouldn't even beat there own top end card .i have a feeling they are going to just keep delaying there release until they can figure something out. if they would have had something new < we would have seen it in radeon 7 . it would have had 11 gigs of ddr6 ram and beat the pants of a rtx 2070 for 70 percent the price. then i would have had faith in the future.
Cinnabuns2009
Cinnabuns2009 12 днів тому
For VR though this is kind of a fail isn't it? I thought 11ms was top end for presence in VR? 6-10 is where we're used to with NV cards... that's a bummer cause I wanted this card. Also, RAW FPS testing it has definitely playably high framerates with the 1% and .1% lows usually higher than than the 2080ti? That means less dips and less worse dips doesn't it? So although the raw fps isn't as high, the lows aren't as low and its the lows that suck the most 'ballz' really so this is still a really really good offering for at least non-VR gaming which is good to see. If you're running VM's this is quite a card to have that will also game which is maybe a change of pace but gives those diehard geeks a route to also game... kinda fantastic too. This is really a gem for a niche audience. For the general public though its pretty lack luster. YMMV Still better than a 2080gtx at probably $100 less if not more depending on market which seems erratic.
doomxed
doomxed 12 днів тому
well against the new quattro rtx series, nvidia has to be in some sort of panic mode rigth now. The AMD VII haves faster FLOPS peformance. In theory.
marinko tinko
marinko tinko 12 днів тому
1080ti is beter and lot cheaper
Wei Li
Wei Li 12 днів тому
Be Aware, If you buy Radeon Vii directly on AMD.com, It only have one year warranty!!!while asrock,asus,msi and Gigabyte provide 3 years warranty on their Radeon Vii. This is especally worth when you compare to Nvidia, they provide 3 year warranty for founder edition card. Unbelievable for AMD decision to their fans. www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/rma-radeonvii-sold-by-amd
Potencijus Klizmantas
Potencijus Klizmantas 12 днів тому
will be any water cooled benches soon?
Michał Starzyński
Michał Starzyński 12 днів тому
Sorry guys but Jay having issues is not representative :) please don't quote that. Thanks for in depth review. My take based on your info is a beast card thats needs a lot of polishing on drivers side.
chris zarganis
chris zarganis 12 днів тому
best reviewer simply put. please comment on smoothness cause i see a big difference .. and also video and colour on a big tv cause radeons are a lot better
Anthony Therrien-Bernard
Anthony Therrien-Bernard 12 днів тому
This is an impressive sustained rate of speech... holly crap my french brain was on fire. That aside great content as usual
Finesse PC
Finesse PC 12 днів тому
Der8auers Vid led me here..
HTElectrical
HTElectrical 12 днів тому
You need to SLOW DOWN, your not an auctioneer!!!
0zfer
0zfer 12 днів тому
Something is odd. Look at the raw specs. This thing is on par with 2080 TI or superior spec-wise. More memory that is 2x as fast. Same texture fill rate. Superior pixel fill rate. Similar Mhz * core count. I just don't think they pushed out good drivers for it yet.
JoshKeatonFan
JoshKeatonFan 12 днів тому
This is my Radeon 7 review tour wrap up on UKvid! I started with JayzTwoCents, then to Bitwit, then Paul's Hardware, then HardwareCanucks, then LinusTechTips, and NOW Tech Jesus himself, Steve from Gamers Nexus!!!!!! Yay
Darknothing
Darknothing 12 днів тому
1.25x speed and I stayed awake this time.
Edward D'Esposito
Edward D'Esposito 12 днів тому
No oveclocking because missing api calls is because this silicon was not originally for gaming.
Andy T
Andy T 12 днів тому
Why didn’t they lap the silicon before releasing-or sand down whatever. Maybe you can’t - but why not at least design the chip heights to be the same. I am sure the stacked chips are hard to match, but it’s a known height so you could engineer for it.
Damo Jackson
Damo Jackson 12 днів тому
He tells you he doesn't care about RTX. Watch him have a video on this channel solely about the RTX features in Metro Exodus and every other game that releases moving forward featuring RTX.
adamsrealm
adamsrealm 12 днів тому
Liquid cooling test?
SuperNinjaJuice
SuperNinjaJuice 12 днів тому
You talk way to fast dude. I had a hard time keeping up with video
icthulu
icthulu 12 днів тому
I am curious why when doing tests on CPUs you use these same game benchmarks, Sniper, etc., instead of using Stellaris, HOI IV, Cities Skylines, They are Billions, etc. which are CPU dependent games.
prep0wer
prep0wer 12 днів тому
Gaming situations a deal on AMD? AMD at least finishes the frames.
Elliot Bridgewater
Elliot Bridgewater 12 днів тому
In the UK, the RTX 2080 launched at £750 (no free games). The Radeon VII is launching at £650 (with Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry 5 and The Division 2 included for free). You can now get two free games with any RTX 2060, 2070, 2080 or 2080 Ti (Battlefield 5 and Anthem). As the RTX 2080 has been out for almost six months now, they start at £640. I think things are currently very competitive.
Moe I
Moe I 12 днів тому
Meh I'll wait a month or 2 until they fix the drivers and then buy. Tired of Nvidias crap and decided to switch. Plus it will match my rig better - Ryzen 2600x
Nemerok Cid
Nemerok Cid 12 днів тому
Bottom line in 2019, go get a 1080ti still.
Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark 12 днів тому
The Linux drivers are stable, I want to see you benchmark Luxmark and other in it.
Freedom Watson
Freedom Watson 12 днів тому
Got my GTX 1080 New for 429.99$ on Newegg. Flashed the BIOS with a modded BIOS, added new TIM, overclocked to 2.1, memory at 11000.. perform some extra tweaks in Nvidia inspector, made some regedit changes and I outperform some of my friends Gtx 1080tis.. then again they don’t understand proper driver handling, machine optimization or overclocking... the money some people will spend just to waste the overhead.. Radeon 7 needs work, needs good drivers and needs to lose some of that price tag. Until we get more GTX cards with DLSS I won’t be leaving the 10 series.
Jason Tate
Jason Tate 12 днів тому
Makes me wiah i didnt have a gsync monitor
mrsudz
mrsudz 12 днів тому
SpeedSpeachSteve!
eukatech
eukatech 12 днів тому
Hey Jesus.. blalblablabla.. ease it down buddy..
BigHeadClan
BigHeadClan 12 днів тому
Hmm given current state of Radeon VII drivers I'm curious if we will see any uplift in performance with the first few patches, I'm kind of thinking it will simply be a lot of bug fixes given and less of a focus on optimizations. The shoddy drivers does lend some credence to AdoredTV's theory that they pulled Navi and pushed out Radeon VII for the announcement.
Andrew Dunn
Andrew Dunn 13 днів тому
This makes me really happy for my 1080ti. radeon 7 does seem like a solid card, solid, not good, not great, not exciting, solid and one that makes sense that amd would release it if they can even break even on it. This being because having more market share is valuable, or losing less. Plus we finally have a reply for the 1080ti from amd.
Alex K
Alex K 13 днів тому
The true reasons for what happened with Radeon VII launch are easy to explain. AMD had to release something that would be at least 50% faster than NVIDIA RTX lineup at $700 to crush NVIDIA which was not something AMD can possibly do even with the 7nm today, so the AMD had to make a deal with NVIDIA not to exceed certain performance levels at certain price otherwise NVIDIA would have dived the prices on their RTX line up by 20 - 25%, which they can afford to do and AMD would have had hard time dealing with it with its HBM2 expensive memory. Its not an accident the Radeon VII is priced exactly the same as RTX 2080 and performs about the same and CANT OVERCLOCK otherwise AGAIN it would have stepped on NVIDIA's toes potentially getting too close to the consumer flagship RTX 2080 TI and that is certainly what NVIDIA doesnt allow. NVIDIA has inflated the prices for what a decent GPU must be selling for in 2018-2019 and they have a good comfort gap even if prices drop while AMD does not. It was best for AMD to agree and not exceed the RTX2080 and still be underdog for not having Ray tracing for the same price, it was a win win situation for both.
jaggafeen
jaggafeen 13 днів тому
been playing games at 5k ultrawide 5120x2160 with radeon 7 i get well over 60 fps on all latest games including bfv at ultra settings and the card is quiet and undervolted to 940mv
Brave Hunter
Brave Hunter 13 днів тому
Steve opened a new speedrun category: review speedrun! 😁
Gaius Trollius
Gaius Trollius 13 днів тому
First the dying vram on rtx cards, now this. Moral of the story: just get gtx 1080tis/1080s.
MaxxTheEnder
MaxxTheEnder 13 днів тому
Hmm, F1 2017 could have a issue with the benchmark at that particular time. It may not even show up in actual gameplay. Also it could have messed with the rendering math for those NVIDIA cards. It’d be interesting to see what you think of it.
Ben Baer
Ben Baer 13 днів тому
radeon vii hybrid mod next, amirite?
Mr Mudcatslim
Mr Mudcatslim 13 днів тому
Why would you want to release it then? AMD does not care about perception?
Kithuni
Kithuni 13 днів тому
Cut your hair, hippie..
marc esser
marc esser 13 днів тому
But we care about DLSS :)
aardvaark
aardvaark 13 днів тому
@2:20, Steve's talking about not being able to see how much vram the app is actually using. I'm pretty sure DXVK (translates dx11 to vulkan API calls) can show this, it's got memory requested and used as 2 separate displays as part of its fps overlay. It might show higher than actual numbers since translation to vulkan increases mem usage, but it's gunna be more reliable than looking at requested memory. DXVK is a linux oriented library but I'm pretty sure it works in windows 10.
VRdude
VRdude 13 днів тому
22:10 when AMD failed beyond failed...
crion88
crion88 13 днів тому
What about using the Raijintek Morpheus II Core Edition 360 watt TDP cooler with conductonaut and two 120mm fans? Can you configure the card for watercooling? link 360W GPU heatsink: www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=46
VisualArticulation
VisualArticulation 13 днів тому
How is the Radeon vii vs Vega frontier in those productivity open cl loads? Trying to fig the value proposition vs 400 used Vega Frontier
audionut
audionut 13 днів тому
rtx is a factor it looks amazing once you go rtx you don't go back
GhenzieDC
GhenzieDC 13 днів тому
cocaine is a hell of a drug.........great in depth review though.
smakusdod
smakusdod 13 днів тому
So it's a $700 1080ti.
Like Clockwork64
Like Clockwork64 13 днів тому
watch at 1.25 speed for high iq viewers
Like Clockwork64
Like Clockwork64 13 днів тому
Ah but where this is now is a good sign. Get the bugs out and get bug free hardware out for the average consumer and hold that MSRP price. A $500 version of this with half the HBM would be a killer upper mid range compared to Nvidia's offerings. Even a further cut down version at $400 is a really competitive GPU. Get those silicon prices down AMD. The driver issue is down to the uniqueness of this GPU. Its shader layout, memory layout, bandwidth, and compression technology are all unique. That means slower driver releases. Nvidia is faster in this area by miles but they have a habit of releasing bad drivers more than no drivers
Bryan de Paepe
Bryan de Paepe 13 днів тому
The video quality is hard to get used to but Windows pushed a fix for what was called an issue with ISP service and I have noticed that the problems with lag and slow load seem to have gone back to what it used to be. I think it might be time to try uploading back to 4K again, the issues you were having might have been resolved.
Sonata Systems
Sonata Systems 13 днів тому
He's not talking fast enough, sorry.
Naked Hardware
Naked Hardware 13 днів тому
Your narration seems to be speeding up more and more with every video. Take a breath man, your fans aren't going to kill you for it.
Voss Li
Voss Li 13 днів тому
The memory on this card costs more than my entire GPU
marklamutt
marklamutt 13 днів тому
Far and above the best reporting of any outlet for this card that I've seen so far. Well done gents!
eugkra33
eugkra33 13 днів тому
I fear this card will be shit in the future. There is so few of them, AMD isn't going to give a single shit about its future driver support. It's so bad now, because they didn't want to spend many man hours in a card they only sell 5000 of.
Kevin Brown
Kevin Brown 13 днів тому
Hello from Seattle!
Real
Real 13 днів тому
Read that this thing obliterates Titans in 4k video rendering and timeline stuff that Titans would actually crash, where the 16gb of HMB2 handles it no issue. Seems like they improperly marketed this card.
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